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    Esto es lo último que escribo porque ya me cansé y, lo que es peor,
    seguramente <br>
    cansamos al resto de la gente.  Hubiera peferido seguir esto en
    privado, <br>
    pero lo hacés público, así que no me queda otra. <br>
      Independientemente de lo que cada uno pueda <br>
    pensar de este fulano, te das cuenta de que estás criticando <b>un
      hecho que no fue?!</b><br>
    Eso escapa totalmente a mi raciocinio, así que no creo que amerite
    ni una palabra más.<br>
     Creo ser una persona con sentido crítico y, como tal, no tengo
    empacho<br>
    en criticar lo que no me parece bien, venga de donde venga (incluso
    de este<br>
    gobierno), pero trato de que la crítica sea fundada y nunca una
    simple chicana.<br>
     Sinceramente, me hubiera gustado que pusieses el mismo empeño  en
    criticar y repudiar tantos<br>
    hechos de corrupción y mentiras que <b>sí fueron</b>, y que, sin
    lugar a dudas, son infinitamente <br>
    más graves y más dañinos para la gente.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 15/06/2017 a las 08:54 a.m.,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar">paz@df.uba.ar</a> escribió:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:20170615165409.Horde.qL9OOhvWaMRZQuXh2E50eyA@mail.df.uba.ar"
      type="cite">
      <title></title>
      <p>No Claudia. No voy a pelearme con ese señor. No me interesa su <br>
        existencia ni su vida. Lo unico que me interesa es que desde el <br>
        estado no se promueva la pseudo ciencia. Yo no invente estas <br>
        historias (la de Goswami y la de Villalonga). Son casos
        pateticos que <br>
        a mi me parecen graves porque estan promovidos desde el estado. <br>
        Yo no oculto mis ideas politicas y es obvio que el gobierno no <br>
        me parece repudiable por esto sino que me parece repudiable <br>
        tambien por esto. Pero eso es harina de otro costal. No lo
        pongo <br>
        en debate ahora. Muchos amigos macristas (si, tengo algunos!) <br>
        estan avergonzados por esta situacion. Vos, en cambio, buscas<br>
        minimizarla o restarle importancia. Una pena. Saludos<br>
        JP<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Claudia Giribet &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:giribet@df.uba.ar">giribet@df.uba.ar</a>&gt;
        escribió:</p>
      <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
        blue;margin-left:8px;padding-left:8px;" type="cite">
        <p>Juan Pablo,  andá y peleate con él! Pero no lo uses como
          excusa<br>
          pre-electoral para darle al gobierno. Y "la paja en el ojo
          ajeno" y la "viga en el propio",<br>
          no se refieren a nada relacionado con este señor.<br>
          Saludos<br>
          Claudia<br>
           </p>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 15/06/2017 a las 04:40 a.m., <a
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
            href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar">paz@df.uba.ar</a> escribió:</div>
        <blockquote
          cite="mid:20170615124056.Horde.UuiGZhvWaMRZQqqIYesxveA@mail.df.uba.ar"
          type="cite">
          <p>Un comentario mas. EL CHANTA de Villalonga que, como vos
            demostraste, <br>
            iba a dar una conferencia organizada por la subsecretaria de
            la secretaria de<br>
            la Ministra (que se suspendio a ultimo momento) te dice a
            vos que no es <br>
            experto en cuantica. En cambio, en su pagina figura un
            reportaje (todavia<br>
            no tuvieron tiempo de sacarlo!, lo encontre gracias a un
            colega del DF que me <br>
            paso el dato!) donde le preguntan "Que es la fisica
            cuantica?". Y el Sr Villalonga<br>
            contesta lo siguiente:</p>
          <div style="font-family: Times;">?¿Qué es la física cuántica?
            ?</div>
          <div style="font-family: Times;"> </div>
          <div style="font-family: Times;">La física clásica newtoniana
            parte de un exterior separado del<br>
            interior. Estudia el macrocosmos. Esta nueva versión de la
            física<br>
            en lugar de buscar afuera se mete en la materia y descubre
            microuniversos<br>
            sutiles y poderosos. <b>Es la demostración científica</b> de
            que existe una<br>
            dimensión de conciencia dentro de la materia, donde estamos
            libres de<br>
            culpa, preocupaciones, angustias, enfermedades y conflictos.
            La física<br>
            cuántica hace accesible la espiritualidad para la gente
            racional. Estamos<br>
            atrapados en la mente y no podemos obtener información más
            allá de<br>
            ella. El materialismo es la ausencia de espiritualidad.
            Intentamos que<br>
            lo externo compense la incompletud interna, y encontramos
            que no le<br>
            alcanza, y queremos más, y más, por eso el desarrollo no es
            sustentable,<br>
            es autodestructivo.</div>
          <p>O sea... Si esta es la paja en el ojo ajeno... Este señor<br>
            habla de cuantica sin saber nada (vos mencionaste eso<br>
            de "hablar sin saber" como algo que no hay que hacer!)<br>
            y lo hace para afirmar alguna autoridad engañando<br>
            a incautos que al escuchar un lenguaje criptico creen que<br>
            es un sabio. Ya lo mio con Villalonga, el frustrado orador<br>
            del seminario organizado por el Ministerio, no es un<br>
            prejuicio, es un juuicio.  <br>
            <br>
            Saludos<br>
            <br>
            Juan Pablo<br>
            <br>
            Claudia Giribet &lt;<a href="mailto:giribet@df.uba.ar"
              moz-do-not-send="true">giribet@df.uba.ar</a>&gt; escribió:</p>
          <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
            blue;margin-left:8px;padding-left:8px;" type="cite">
            <p><font face="Times New Roman">Juanpa,<br>
                  Lo tuyo no pasa de meras suposiciones: "miente u
                oculta la realidad",<br>
                Lo volvés a tratar de mentiroso al decir que no te
                consta que el evento se haya cancelado.<br>
                Volvés a interpretar en el aire al suponer que se
                suspendió "por verguenza" (dónde está la diéresis<br>
                en este teclado???) . O sea , te clavás en tus trece, a
                pesar de las evidencias.<br>
                En fin, yo no voy a defender a este señor, al que no
                conozco, pero<br>
                me molestan las críticas sesgadas y tuertas.<br>
                  Si te fijás en su página, él da una conferencia
                gratuita que se llama "Camino a la Mestría",<br>
                enfocada a (cito) "activar el poder del ser en la vida
                personal y profesional" y basada, por lo que veo,<br>
                en desarrollar una actitud positiva, basando parte de
                los métodos de la meditación trascendental.<br>
                Y, sí, uno de los puntos dice:</font></p>
            <ul class="temario-ul-pad" style="box-sizing: border-box;
              margin: 0px 0px 22px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(51, 51,
              51); font-family: Arimo, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;
              font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
              font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
              letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start;
              text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
              normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
              -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
              255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial;
              text-decoration-color: initial;">
              <li style="list-style: none; display: inline">
                <p class="lead-temario" style="box-sizing: border-box;
                  margin: 0px 0px 5px; line-height: 25px; color: rgb(41,
                  171, 226); font-size: 18px; text-align: left;
                  font-family: &quot;Open Sans&quot;, sans-serif;
                  font-weight: 700;">Visión cuántica y universo
                  vibratorio</p>
              </li>
              <li class="lead-temario-punto" style="box-sizing:
                border-box; line-height: 24px; font-size: 16px;
                text-align: left; font-family: &quot;Open Sans&quot;,
                sans-serif; font-weight: 400; margin-left: 18px;">El
                campo unificado de todas las posibilidades</li>
              <li class="lead-temario-punto" style="box-sizing:
                border-box; line-height: 24px; font-size: 16px;
                text-align: left; font-family: &quot;Open Sans&quot;,
                sans-serif; font-weight: 400; margin-left: 18px;">Contaminación
                y contribución energética</li>
              <li class="lead-temario-punto" style="box-sizing:
                border-box; line-height: 24px; font-size: 16px;
                text-align: left; font-family: &quot;Open Sans&quot;,
                sans-serif; font-weight: 400; margin-left: 18px;">Elevación
                vibratoria consciente</li>
            </ul>
            <p>  <font face="Times New Roman" size="+1">Éste es solo un
                punto de los 12, todos orientados a adquirir una actitud
                positiva ante la vida.<br>
                Por supuesto, le volví a escribir, pidiéndole
                precisiones. He aquí su prespuesta:</font><br>
              <font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
            <div><span style="font-size: 14px;">Mirá, solo hago
                referencia a la impactante experiencia que lideró John
                Hagelin, dentro del movimiento de la MT,<br>
                en la ciudad de Washington DC en el verano de 1993 y que
                fuera publicada por revistas científicas muy
                prestigiosas en USA.</span></div>
            <div> </div>
            <div><span style="font-size: 14px;">Por 48 estudios previos,
                John Hagelin y la MT, habían previsto que si 4.000
                meditadores meditaban juntos por varias horas<br>
                al día y durante varias semanas (casi dos meses) se iba
                a producir una reducción del 25% en los índices de
                criminalidad en la ciudad.<br>
                El experimento fue seguido por numerosos investigadores
                (y por la policía local) que atestiguaron que
                efectivamente luego de<br>
                la experiencia real, esos indicadores bajaron en un 24%,
                ante la sorpresa de todos.</span></div>
            <div> </div>
            <p><font size="+2"><font face="Times New Roman"><font
                    size="+1">Obviamente, te puede parecer una tontería
                    la MT, pero es algo inofensivo, que no compromete<br>
                    la sacrosanta verdad promulgada por la ciencia, (por
                    favor, ahora no empieces con Hagelin)<br>
                    Y lo que está dando Villalonga es un ejemplo de cómo
                    (según él) la MT puede mejorar la vida de las
                    personas.<br>
                    <br>
                    Así que, podés respirar tranquilo que no se mete en
                    nuestra quintita.  <b>Igual, nada de esto importa.</b><br>
                    Lo que provocó mi reacción es cómo están siempre
                    buscando la paja en el ojo ajeno, ignorando<br>
                    la viga en el propio. Ni siquiera les alcanza con
                    que la conferencia se haya suspendido. En tus
                    propias<br>
                    palabras "eso no te consta"... Toda una definición.<br>
                    <br>
                    Saludos<br>
                    Claudia<br>
                    <br>
                    PD: paro acá y no contesto más, porque no me gusta
                    aumentar la entropía </font></font></font><br>
              <br>
              El 15/06/2017 a las 02:42 a.m., <a
                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar" moz-do-not-send="true">paz@df.uba.ar</a>
              escribió:</p>
            <blockquote
              cite="mid:20170615104239.Horde.vIfQURvWaMRZQo7PpvSTgyA@mail.df.uba.ar"
              type="cite">
              <p>Claudia, seamos rigurosos. De tu mensaje se deduce que:<br>
                a) El Sr Villalonga miente u oculta la realidad...: Te
                dice que no<br>
                es un guru cuantico ni un experto en fisica cuantica.
                Barbaro!<br>
                Pero su pagina, como te hicieron notar, dice lo
                contrario, palabras<br>
                mas, palabras menos. Su enfoque "energético" y
                motivador,<br>
                segun el, se basa en la fisica cuantica. Reitero, eso
                esta en su <br>
                pagina. Supongo que ahora lo va a negar todo, y no seria<br>
                raro que desaparezcan esas cosas de sus paginas a la
                brevedad.<br>
                Si eso sucede, sera un logro (un chanta menos
                ejerciendo <br>
                impunemente la pseudo ciencia). <br>
                b) El Sr Villalonga confirma que el evento existio.
                Segun el, "fue cancelado<br>
                a ultimo momento" (cosa que no me consta que sea cierta,
                aunque<br>
                tampoco me consta que se haya realizado; en cambio, me
                consta<br>
                que fue anunciado y fue organizado por la subsecretaria
                de la<br>
                secretaria de la Ministra Stanley). Queres pruebas?<br>
                Las tenes en tu propio mensaje! Villalonga no niega la
                existencia del <br>
                evento sino que afirma que se cancelo (a ultimo
                momento...). Seria bueno<br>
                que le preguntes si el temario que yo envie es correcto
                (no mande el<br>
                titulo, porque me daba risa, pero mande el temario, que
                incluia<br>
                a la fisica cuantica en el punto 2). <br>
                c) Nos mandas a buscar en las paginas del Ministerio,
                donde no hay<br>
                nada, ningun rastro de todo esto. No te parece raro?
                Digo esto <br>
                porque, como confirma Villalonga, el evento existio y se
                suspendio<br>
                (a ultimo momento!). Si todo fuera razonable y
                transparente,<br>
                eso deberia figurar en las paginas del Ministerio<br>
                (algo asi como "se informa que por razones de
                organizacion<br>
                se ha suspendido el evento tal y cual"). Sin embargo...
                no hay<br>
                nada. Mi interpretacion: Les dio verguenza y lo
                suspendieron.<br>
                Seria un acto de sanidad, sin duda (probablemente
                motivada<br>
                por la verguenza que a algunas personas serias les
                produjo<br>
                el seminario del mistico cuantico). Otra alternativa,
                tambien<br>
                probable, es que en la pagina esa del Ministerio no hay
                informacion<br>
                completa (sobre ese tema ni sobre muchos otros).<br>
                d) Por ultimo, creo que es obvio que si no hubieramos<br>
                reaccionado ante el evento del "mistico cuantico" (la
                AFA, la<br>
                Facultad, etc), esta ridiculez hubiera pasado como por
                un tubo.<br>
                <br>
                Saludos<br>
                Juan Pablo<br>
                <br>
                Claudia Giribet &lt;<a href="mailto:giribet@df.uba.ar"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">giribet@df.uba.ar</a>&gt;
                escribió:</p>
              <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
                blue;margin-left:8px;padding-left:8px;" type="cite">
                <p>Estimados,<br>
                     Desde mi más tierna infancia, mis padres (gente de
                  una ética admirable) me inculcaron<br>
                  que no hay que hablar sin saber y, mucho menos, opinar
                  sin conocer.  Más tarde,<br>
                  mis profesores en la facultad me enseñaron que no se
                  puede hacer una afirmación sin fundamentarla<br>
                  o, al menos, verificar las fuentes, porque eso es una
                  falta de profesionalidad y de rigor científico.<br>
                    Obediente a estos "mandatos" de mis padres y
                  profesores , estuve hurgando por la página<br>
                  del Ministerio de Desarrollo y ..., nada, che, nada
                  sobre esta charla, supuestamente esotérica.<br>
                    No contenta con ello, conseguí el mail de Patricio
                  Villalonga (no fue un gran esfuerzo, es bastante<br>
                  accesible) y le escribí, pidiéndole precisiones. He
                  aquí la respuesta:<br>
                   </p>
                <div><span style="font-size: 14px;">Hola Claudia</span></div>
                <div> </div>
                <div><span style="font-size: 14px;">La conferencia se
                    canceló a último momento. El tema  era la Sabiduría
                    Emocional Operativa.</span></div>
                <div> </div>
                <div><span style="font-size: 14px;">En una nota
                    periodística se me presentó como ?Gurú cuántico?,
                    cosa que no tiene nada que ver conmigo ( no soy ni
                    gurú ni especialista en física cuántica) ni con la
                    conferencia.</span></div>
                <div> </div>
                <div><span style="font-size: 14px;">¿Me podrías informar
                    sobre cuál es tu interés al respecto?.</span></div>
                <div> </div>
                <div><span style="font-size: 14px;">Todo lo mejor,</span></div>
                <div><span style="font-size: 14px;">slds</span></div>
                <p><br>
                  Obviamente, yo no le había mencionado las "opiniones"
                  que se habían vertido por acá, solo le había
                  preguntado si<br>
                  había dado esa conferencia y cuál era el temario, así
                  que realmente se debe<br>
                  haber sentido molesto por la "nota periodística"
                  (habrá abrevado en ella J. P. Paz, o habrá sido en la 
                  página del Prof. Ayalón<br>
                  en la que también se basó la "nota periodística"?),
                  para mencionármelo en su respuesta.<br>
                  <br>
                    En fin, muchachos, critiquen todo lo que quieran lo
                  criticable, pero no rasquen el fondo, buscando "algo"
                  que les permita<br>
                  disimular toda la (aparente) mugre de los 12 años
                  "ganados" que está saliendo a flote. Y digo
                  "aparente", porque trato de ser<br>
                  respetuosa de nuestra leeeenntttttaaaaa justicia.<br>
                    Para terminar, si quieren buscar fuentes, revisen la
                  página del Ministerio de Desarrollo Social, en su
                  sección Responsabilidad Social:<br>
                  <br>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                    href="http://www.desarrollosocial.gob.ar/responsabilidadsocial"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.desarrollosocial.gob.ar/responsabilidadsocial</a><br>
                  <br>
                  Saludos<br>
                  Claudia<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                   </p>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 14/06/2017 a las 06:04
                  a.m., <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar" moz-do-not-send="true">paz@df.uba.ar</a>
                  escribió:</div>
                <blockquote
                  cite="mid:20170614140405.Horde.714EDhvWaMRZQWyFfvHSlDA@mail.df.uba.ar"
                  type="cite">
                  <p>Ef señor este es un personaje complejo. En su parte
                    real, fue un ceo (o cero?) del<br>
                    grupo Macri. En su parte imaginaria, esta su
                    conocimiento sobre fisica cuantica.<br>
                    Tal vez su asesoramiento a la Ministra Stanley haya
                    incidido en el colapso de las<br>
                    funcion de onda de miles de pensionados (perdón por
                    hablar de esa tragedia con<br>
                    una broma, pero si perdemos el humor, no nos queda
                    casi nada). La realidad <br>
                    supera la ficcion, esto no lo podria haber imaginado
                    ni el propio Capusotto.<br>
                    <br>
                    . <br>
                    <a href="mailto:alliende@df.uba.ar"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><br>
                      alliende@df.uba.ar</a> escribió:</p>
                  <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
                    blue;margin-left:8px;padding-left:8px;" type="cite">
                    <p>Perdon que reflote el tema, en la página de la
                      Fundación Columbia de conciencia y energia (???)
                      se puede leer:<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Patricio Villalonga<br>
                      <br>
                      <span style="color:#000000;"><span
                          style="font-family: &quot;Source Sans
                          Pro&quot;; background-color: rgb(242, 241,
                          231);">Licenciado en economía. Posee una
                          amplia formación en management. </span><span
                          style="font-family: &quot;Source Sans
                          Pro&quot;; background-color: rgb(242, 241,
                          231); line-height: 1.6em;">Desarrolló una
                          importante trayectoria profesional en empresas
                          como</span></span> <span
                        style="color:#ff0000;"><span style="font-family:
                          &quot;Source Sans Pro&quot;; background-color:
                          rgb(242, 241, 231); line-height: 1.6em;"><strong>Grupo </strong></span><strong><span
                            style="font-family: &quot;Source Sans
                            Pro&quot;; background-color: rgb(242, 241,
                            231); line-height: 1.6em;">Macri, Indupa y
                            Shoeller &amp; Cabelma. </span></strong></span><br>
                      <br>
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        href="http://www.fundacioncolumbia.org/docentes/patricio-villalonga"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.fundacioncolumbia.org/docentes/patricio-villalonga</a><br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Una verguenza.<br>
                      <br>
                      Saludos<br>
                      <br>
                      Jorge<br>
                      <a href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><br>
                        paz@df.uba.ar</a> escribió:</p>
                    <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
                      blue;margin-left:8px;padding-left:8px;"
                      type="cite">
                      <p>Coincido en la interpretación sobre cuales son
                        los motivos<br>
                        por los cuales el gobierno de Macri promueve, de
                        una u otra<br>
                        manera, la pseudo ciencia. No es casual. Pero no
                        quise <br>
                        extenderme en eso sino solamente dar el dato de
                        lo que <br>
                        sucede de la mano de la Ministra Stanley, asi
                        como sucedió<br>
                        antes de la mano de la Gobernadora Vidal. Es muy
                        coherente<br>
                        con discursos como los promovidos por el
                        filosofo oficial que<br>
                        cuestiona al espíritu crítico como algo
                        pernicioso y promueve<br>
                        la búsqueda del optimismo y la plenitud. Basta
                        ya porque estoy<br>
                        a punto de decir que si los votan en octubre
                        esto va a ser<br>
                        MUCHO peor! Saludos<br>
                        Juan Pablo<br>
                        <br>
                        Alan Garbarz &lt;<a href="mailto:alan@df.uba.ar"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">alan@df.uba.ar</a>&gt;
                        escribió:</p>
                      <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
                        blue;margin-left:8px;padding-left:8px;"
                        type="cite">
                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>Más allá del disgusto como científico, el
                            punto para mí mucho más importante, pasa por
                            estas frases de la nota:</div>
                          <div> </div>
                          "El uso y la irradiación de argumentaciones
                          artificiosamente encubiertas, que se tornan
                          difíciles de entender o interpretar, no debe
                          ser subestimado o caracterizado como acciones
                          irrelevantes, sin sentido. Presentan una
                          intencionalidad evidente, y perversa, que
                          apunta a construir una subjetividad dislocada
                          en la sociedad, trastocando los ejes de
                          análisis de lo que acontece objetivamente. Se
                          tiende a distraer de lo verdaderamente
                          relevante que debe hacer el Estado, para
                          asegurar condiciones de vida digna en las que
                          se satisfagan las necesidades de alimentación,
                          de salud, de educación, de vivienda, de la
                          población."</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">El 13 de junio de
                            2017, 0:17, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar"
                                moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">paz@df.uba.ar</a>&gt;</span>
                            escribió:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                              #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              <p>Este es el capítulo 2 de una saga
                                patética.<br>
                                El capítulo 1 tuvo lugar hace unos
                                meses, cuando<br>
                                desde el Ministerio de Educación de la
                                Provincia<br>
                                de Buenos Aires se convocó a un
                                especialista en<br>
                                "mística cuántica". No voy a abundar en
                                detalles<br>
                                sobre eso, ya pasó...<br>
                                <br>
                                El capítulo 2 es aún mas patético. En
                                esta ocasión<br>
                                el protagonista es el Ministerio de
                                Desarrollo<br>
                                Social de la Nación.<br>
                                <br>
                                De ese Ministerio depende la Secretaría<br>
                                de Acompañamiento y Protección Social,
                                de la<br>
                                que depende la Subsecretaría de
                                Responsabilidad<br>
                                Social para el Desarrollo Sostenible.
                                Qué<br>
                                tendrá que ver esto con la cuántica??<br>
                                <br>
                                Esta Subsecretaría convocó a una
                                actividad<br>
                                el viernes 9 de junio en el marco del<br>
                                programa ?Administración Pública<br>
                                Socialmente Responsable?. El título<br>
                                de la jornada da risa asique lo omito.<br>
                                El expositor fue un economista (ex<br>
                                ejecutivo de Socma) llamado Patricio<br>
                                Villalonga. El temario: a) Nuevas<br>
                                maneras más benignas de intervenir<br>
                                en la realidad. b) La física cuántica:
                                Una<br>
                                nueva comprensión de la realidad.<br>
                                c) El vínculo perdido entre el mundo<br>
                                interno y el mundo externo, etc, etc.<br>
                                <br>
                                Chantada en estado puro. En el
                                Ministerio<br>
                                de Desarrollo Social...<br>
                                <br>
                                Esto parece una broma de pésimo gusto.
                                Pero<br>
                                no, es parte de lo que está haciendo
                                este<br>
                                gobierno. Al tiempo que recortan en<br>
                                el Mincyt y el Conicet, parecen<br>
                                disfrutar de la pseudo ciencia en sus<br>
                                diversas formas. Sienten verguenza?<br>
                                Yo siento bronca (ya se, debe ser porque<br>
                                soy K). De todos modos, no salgo de mi<br>
                                asombro.<br>
                                <br>
                                Saludos<br>
                                <br>
                                Juan Pablo<br>
                                <br>
                                Pd: una nota sobre este asunto, escrita
                                por<br>
                                Norberto Alayón, puede encontrarse en el<br>
                                siguiente link<br>
                                <a
href="http://elmagma.blogspot.com.ar/2017/06/el-reino-de-lo-banal-2.html?m=1"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://elmagma.blogspot.com.ar<wbr>/2017/06/el-reino-de-lo-banal-<wbr>2.html?m=1</a><br>
                                <br>
                                Dr Juan Pablo Paz<br>
                                Profesor Titular UBA, Investigador
                                Superior CONICET<br>
                                Departamento de Fisica &amp; Instituto
                                de Fisica de Buenos Aires<br>
                                FCEyN UBA, Pabellon 1, Ciudad
                                Universitaria<br>
                                1428 Buenos Aires, Argentina<br>
                                Email: <a href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">paz@df.uba.ar</a><br>
                                Phone: <a href="tel:%2B54-11-45763353"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
                                  value="+541145763353">+54-11-45763353</a><br>
                                <a href="http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz</a><br>
                                <a href="http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar</a><br>
                                 </p>
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                      <p><br>
                        <br>
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                      <p> </p>
                      <div class="impComposeSignature">Dr Juan Pablo Paz<br>
                        Profesor Titular UBA, Investigador Superior
                        CONICET<br>
                        Departamento de Fisica &amp; Instituto de Fisica
                        de Buenos Aires<br>
                        FCEyN UBA, Pabellon 1, Ciudad Universitaria<br>
                        1428 Buenos Aires, Argentina<br>
                        Email: <a href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">paz@df.uba.ar</a><br>
                        Phone: +54-11-45763353<br>
                        <a href="http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz"
                          moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz</a><br>
                        <a href="http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar"
                          moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar</a></div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p><br>
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                  </blockquote>
                  <p><br>
                    <br>
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                  <p> </p>
                  <div class="impComposeSignature">Dr Juan Pablo Paz<br>
                    Profesor Titular UBA, Investigador Superior CONICET<br>
                    Departamento de Fisica &amp; Instituto de Fisica de
                    Buenos Aires<br>
                    FCEyN UBA, Pabellon 1, Ciudad Universitaria<br>
                    1428 Buenos Aires, Argentina<br>
                    Email: <a href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">paz@df.uba.ar</a><br>
                    Phone: +54-11-52857580<br>
                    <a href="http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz"
                      moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz</a><br>
                    <a href="http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar"
                      moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar</a></div>
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                <p> </p>
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              <div class="impComposeSignature">Dr Juan Pablo Paz<br>
                Profesor Titular UBA, Investigador Superior CONICET<br>
                Departamento de Fisica &amp; Instituto de Fisica de
                Buenos Aires<br>
                FCEyN UBA, Pabellon 1, Ciudad Universitaria<br>
                1428 Buenos Aires, Argentina<br>
                Email: <a href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">paz@df.uba.ar</a><br>
                Phone: +54-11-52857580<br>
                <a href="http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz</a><br>
                <a href="http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank">http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar</a></div>
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El uso de la lista implica la aceptacion de las reglas de netiquette (RFC 1855). Sus mensajes seran almacenados y estaran disponibles publicamente en la web. Evite comentarios ofensivos. No se permite el envio de mensajes con fines comerciales. El no cumplimiento de estas reglas puede implicar la suspension o el cancelamiento inmediato de la suscripcion a la lista.

Ud. puede desuscribirse libremente entrando a <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mail.df.uba.ar/mailman/listinfo/todos" moz-do-not-send="true">http://mail.df.uba.ar/mailman/listinfo/todos</a>

Por favor, no envíe mensajes pidiendo ser desuscripto.
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      <div class="impComposeSignature">Dr Juan Pablo Paz<br>
        Profesor Titular UBA, Investigador Superior CONICET<br>
        Departamento de Fisica &amp; Instituto de Fisica de Buenos Aires<br>
        FCEyN UBA, Pabellon 1, Ciudad Universitaria<br>
        1428 Buenos Aires, Argentina<br>
        Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:paz@df.uba.ar">paz@df.uba.ar</a><br>
        Phone: +54-11-52857580<br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz"
          target="_blank">http://www.df.uba.ar/users/paz</a><br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar"
          target="_blank">http://www.qufiba.df.uba.ar</a></div>
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El uso de la lista implica la aceptacion de las reglas de netiquette (RFC 1855). Sus mensajes seran almacenados y estaran disponibles publicamente en la web. Evite comentarios ofensivos. No se permite el envio de mensajes con fines comerciales. El no cumplimiento de estas reglas puede implicar la suspension o el cancelamiento inmediato de la suscripcion a la lista.

Ud. puede desuscribirse libremente entrando a <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mail.df.uba.ar/mailman/listinfo/todos">http://mail.df.uba.ar/mailman/listinfo/todos</a>

Por favor, no envíe mensajes pidiendo ser desuscripto.
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